Pre-seed / seed funding for a community app... valuation and how much to take from investors?

Hey guys, We're building a community for startups and entrepreneurs ( iOS is currently live with invite-only: and Android is in development right now (launching in summer) We have angel investors reaching out to us and asking about the valuation & pre-seed investments. We are just wondering how much we should raise in this case... 1. What are some valuation range for a startup / product like this? 2. How much of our valuation should we give to the investors (we're talking about a small investment like 50K) 3. Should we get investments at all for now? Right now we're silent launch with 300 iOS users and 1000 on waiting list on both android and iOS. Thanks


To answer your questions:
1) Mobile companies at your stage usually raise angel funding at a valuation equivalent of $5,000,000 for US based companies and $4,000,000 to $4,500,000 for Canadian companies.
2) The valuation is a function of how much you raise against that valuation. For instance, selling $50,000 at $5,000,000 means you are selling debt that will convert into shares equal to roughly 1% of your company.
3) I would encourage you to check out my other answers that I've recently written that talk in detail about what to raise and when to raise. Given that you've now launched and your launch is "quiet", most seed investors are going to want to see substantial traction before investing.

It's best for you to raise this money on a convertible note instead of actually selling equity, especially if you are intending on raising $50,000 - $100,000.

Happy to schedule a call with you to provide more specifics and encourage you to read through the answers I've provided re fundraising advice to early-stage companies as well.

Answered 7 years ago

Been there done this and got a major investor on board. Let me know if you'd like to chat.

Answered 6 years ago

First thing first, this purely depends on where you guys are based. If you're based in Silicon Valley you could potentially raise more money at a better valuation. My experience however is raising money in Europe, specifically in the UK and Portugal, and although I have raised from angels across the world from places like China, Singapore, US, and the Middle East, I will speak to the mentality of European investors.

At the stage you are at right now, I would suggest going for a 100,000 GBP round. Whatever amount you decide on, DO NOT CHANGE IT. Throughout the entire fundraising of this round (whether it is one week or two months) make sure not to change the asking amount. So be very picky with this number.

Second, set a minimum investment amount from each investor. Since you are dealing with a seed stage round, I would suggest to go with around 10k GBP (so max you end up with 10 investors with minimum amounts). If you feel that is too high then drop it to 5k, but then also bring your asking amount down to 50k.

Valuation range for your stage and startup (in Europe only) would be less than 1 million GBP (around 500k to 800k). If you're lucky and have a ton of interest from investors and can create competition among them, you could potentially get up to 1.5 million GBP. This means that if you're raising 100k GBP as a seed round, you'd be giving up between 10% to 25% depending on your valuation.

I would recommend not giving up more than 25% in a seed round, and know from experience that unless you're lucky or dealing with investors who don't know what they're doing, you will need to give up more than 10%.

I'm happy to speak in more detail about this if you feel it would be helpful.

Ali Ahmed

Answered 6 years ago

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